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 I went to the [[a:Gathering of Tribes]] in Portugal in September 2024 and in general, overall, it was a great and deep experience on many levels. But one less-welcome characteristic still seemed to be present: some "tribes" seemed still to be there to gain members; to grow themselves, or, in a word, to "proselytize". In some ways that is to be expected … many people have many (and varied) good ideas about how to regenerate, how to make the world a better place, or something like that, and it's hardly surprising that they would like others to join them. And sure, there were people there, not already committed to any one "tribe", who may have been interested in joining one of the "tribes" there. The problem with [[wp>proselytism]] is when a person is being persuaded to change allegiance from one tribe to another, from one cause to another, from one story or [[t:healing narrative]] to another, from one religion to another (the classic case). That is proselytism, and it is generally seen in negative terms. I went to the [[a:Gathering of Tribes]] in Portugal in September 2024 and in general, overall, it was a great and deep experience on many levels. But one less-welcome characteristic still seemed to be present: some "tribes" seemed still to be there to gain members; to grow themselves, or, in a word, to "proselytize". In some ways that is to be expected … many people have many (and varied) good ideas about how to regenerate, how to make the world a better place, or something like that, and it's hardly surprising that they would like others to join them. And sure, there were people there, not already committed to any one "tribe", who may have been interested in joining one of the "tribes" there. The problem with [[wp>proselytism]] is when a person is being persuaded to change allegiance from one tribe to another, from one cause to another, from one story or [[t:healing narrative]] to another, from one religion to another (the classic case). That is proselytism, and it is generally seen in negative terms.
  
-This is exactly one of the challenges of the term "tribes", and that is why I'm glad that looking forward to 2026 it is no longer a Gathering “of Tribes”, but more straightforwardly "The Gathering", as in the revised domain name, ''the-gathering.earth''. My point is that you can't really belong to and engage with more than one tribe at once, at least in the historical sense. The term "tribe" brings up images of people you actually live with — how many of us could sustain even a double life in this sense, of being simultaneously a member of more than one tribe?+This is exactly one of the challenges of the term "tribes", and that is why I'm glad that looking forward to 2026 it is no longer a Gathering “of Tribes”, but more straightforwardly "The Gathering", as in the revised domain name, ''[[https://the-gathering.earth|the-gathering.earth]]''. My point is that you can't really belong to and engage with more than one tribe at once, at least in the historical sense. The term "tribe" brings up images of people you actually live with — how many of us could sustain even a double life in this sense, of being simultaneously a member of more than one tribe?
  
 Moving on to that other unusual term, [[wp>vicarious]] — I mean it not just in the sense of experiencing something for another person, but also meaning taking some action on behalf of another. The two words "vicarious" and "proselytism" together make a kind of paradox, or [[wp>oxymoron]]. If proselytism is adding to your own tribe at the expense of another tribe, it cannot be vicarious in a straightforward sense. And it is here, in this paradoxical juxtaposition, that I want to make the point that is relevant to [[t:non-possessive collaboration]]. Moving on to that other unusual term, [[wp>vicarious]] — I mean it not just in the sense of experiencing something for another person, but also meaning taking some action on behalf of another. The two words "vicarious" and "proselytism" together make a kind of paradox, or [[wp>oxymoron]]. If proselytism is adding to your own tribe at the expense of another tribe, it cannot be vicarious in a straightforward sense. And it is here, in this paradoxical juxtaposition, that I want to make the point that is relevant to [[t:non-possessive collaboration]].
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